Nice work mate.
They are supposed to be able to sell a sample anyway. Glad you confirmed it 
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Looking to buy one on 25th or plus a CD12 max
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Ok, cool. Thanks @Dr_Andy_Vishnu 
I have to wait until the 23rd Febā¦ well, 24th in reality. Not to buy, but before our friends get back from the new year holidays. Even then, it will take a little while to get the main board design done and - only if there are potential bulk customers. But Iām ok with that. I would rather wait for something of reasonable build quality and good design and have access to support.
I also think the only sensible way forward is to focus on the square (rectangular) design, round is nice but, as we all know - impractical.
They have access to A13 and 15 source for unisoc. However, I will advise them to go for A9. Itās far more flexible than later versions and GIS means that people can bump up the A version if needed.
After working on A10 and looking at A13, 14 & 15, they have over complicated the code so much in favour of security (which is understandable) that it becomes silly to try and use it on a watch, for example. I totally understand why Android has progressed this way, but it makes it almost unusable for a simple watch type scenario.
All that being said, the W527 is certainly the one to keep an eye on and Wiite can see the potential it brings to the table. Regarding GMS, unless we have a radical approach to this integration - I have serious doubts about what adding GMS to the mix will bring. If itās done badly (which is extremely likely without some skilled intervention) it will back fire and make poor use of a very good chipset.
Of course, the usual Android 8 GMS integration (like S99 for example) might be fine for some people, but I have serious concerns about the power draw, even if it looks fine - Iām fairly sure that it is eating power.
So my main focus is going to be on how to give end users the choice to use GMS or not. I donāt mean a ādisable GMS switchā - I mean an integration process that can be completed by end users, if they want it.
I know, it sounds crazy right?
But considering the huge problems and failures that GMS integration causes (if done within China) surely it is time for a change? I mean itās time to stop expecting the guys in a country that is forbidden to use GMS, to get it to work perfectly. Otherwise, end users will be forever disappointed (@christ is a great example, but Iām sure that most Google people share the same opinion)
Anyway, my apologies for the very long post, but I seriously feel that itās time for a change. Itās great that people like Wiite are very supportive of this and very interested. It means that there is a chance that we can get some cooperation on this.
Cheers
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Great post mate. Makes sense
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Thanks, Iāll probably need to sleep after that, 
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go for it
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By the way,
Iām quite seriously unwell at the moment. I may not be responding much until I get better. My lower legs are in a pretty bad way due to the heat here. But, with nothing else to do while I am recovering, I might respond to some things if I can.
Thanks
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Okay mate. Keep in touch 
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Ok and thanks for your hard work. But why not made a A10 or 11 watch with a MTK chipset ( they are actually still fine with Google ) as the DM101 or Lemfo Lem 16, i think that with a more modern package ( Amoled big screen, rotate camera, Nfc ) this kind of watch will be a succesā¦
Absolutely, if I can I will. No worries, and thanks
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They āappearā to be fine. But under the hood - in the OS - they are breaking all the correct permissions and install locations in the various partitions. This ends up causing problems that might not be obvious, but are quite serious in terms of security and power draw.
The other issue is exactly what you just mentioned - NFC, rotating camera, toaster and hair dryer - these are all a waste of time and not why you should buy a smart watch running full Android OS. Unless you are happy with NFC not being able to be used for ātap and payā etcā¦ If you are happy with no financial function at all, then itās probably fine and is already available on many devices.
Just remember - keep it real
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Good night all
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Yes i keep it real : at the moment there is no new watchphones with a good implementation of Google, only the old DM101 ( A10 FAW ) and the A11 Lemfo Lem 16 are still ok and have no problems with Google. About pay with NFC there is no Full Android smartwatches on the market excepted Apple watch or Google Watch who are not Full Android Smartwatches because only Esim.. W527 and A9 is not a good choice in my opinion, but time will tell..
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google work or not is irelevaant to the processor
it is just if the person design the rom put how much effort
the cd12 (8541e A8) can pass play integrety strong
just very little people want it so they dont put effort in it
w527 in power draw and speed of processor is absolutely superior
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W527 is fully compatible with T310 which have source code available so it is really excellent platform
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How do you know that ? Have you acces to consumer statistic ?
Because heās part of a development group who has tested it. The new chip will be a very versatile solution. So thatās why there is a lot of interest.
But it will require some dev work and testing to achieve good results. This is an independent project (not being undertaken by any brand I mean) to achieve a reliable wearable Android device. Brands will sell their version and the dev project will be working on a custom image to run on it.
@AILIFE has already made significant progress (in fact almost completed) a ārealā version of the fake ādual modeā and it is well worth the effort. Basically it gives the user a choice of running the standard Android OS or a very efficient type of RTOS. Fantastic work and if people want to get involved in testing it - let us know here or send a message to AILIFE maybe.
We would be happy to host a dev testing program here if there is enough interest.
Heās also made significant changes to the original universal launcher and released his generation of the app. Well worth testing if you havenāt already. Basically, the point Iām making is that the dev project produces excellent results for enthusiasts like us.
Maybe check out some of the video clips available which show the results of using the GSI capabilities of some of these devices. I canāt remember where it is at the moment, but somewhere here on the forum, there is a link to one of these videos and it is definitely worth checking out. Especially if you want to get interested in this particular new device that is being discussed here in this thread.
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Yep, Iām looking forward to getting a look at this if I can.
Keen to get into checking out the work you will be doing on that platform. Basically, my hope is to attract attention to the end results once it is ready. In the fairly small world of full Android watches, it would be a great result if people who design and manufacture these products in China can help produce a smart wearable Android device that actually works well and is what people really want from these products.
Of course, we would only do this if @AILIFE and others wanted to get involved with it. This does not mean that people who rely heavily on Googleās eco system will be excluded - because that would just not fly with the big manufacturers. But, as I mentioned previously, it is vital (in my opinion) that end users should have the choice. GMS or notā¦ However, in reality, making it a choice is far from simple and would need some work to implement. Definitely worth considering though.
In my opinion.
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ofcourse aaaa
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our system solution will be vanilla (no gappps) but will have spoof signature permission so you can install microg as user app and works perfectly, microg allow you to set device profile from a config xml file so no need extra effort to spoof it from system
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