Sept 29, 2018 5:03:04 GMT 1 RASC Moderators said:
Sept 29, 2018 3:36:17 GMT 1 tege said:
And I do know, I am a Quality Assurance manager for a massive company and this is my job.. Professional testing of hardware and software. We have over 100 developers, testers etc.. These companies are doing the easy upgrades.! Waterproof is mandatory so are the features i mention above.. Otherwise you all are just getting caught up in the eye candy.. Oh yea bluetooth calling also.. It's not difficult they just need to invest the time and money.. However does it first will make a bomb selling to other companies anyway as it's not opensource! Anyway my 2 cents.. I watch these forums and most are just going with the flow.. They need to make these changes it's just slight effort for big payoff, they'll double their sales period and can charge 20 percent more for the feature sets! Stupid of them really, priorities are wrong period.. they offer more flavors of the same half baked products!
Ha ha - you have to bear in mind who your dealing with here.
It's a whole different world and with one aim in mind - producing reasonable wearable electronics at an extremely low price in huge quantities.
I know this very well as we work with several of these brands and I've been there to Shenzhen to consult with them and discuss these points.
All the stuff you mentioned above is available for those who want to spend a significant amount of money for a supposedly “smart watch”
Indeed - in a few months we will see Full Android watches coming from a different chipset vendor which should fit your ideas quite well - but for around $350 - $500 USD.
Here we understand the limitations of the devices we are dealing with and the issues with quality control etc etc …but we only expect to pay between $90 - $190 USD for a fairly good product.
At this price point high quality waterproofing is extremely difficult to achieve on devices that have speakers and microphone… I don’t expect to take my mobile phone into water without issues - and I treat my watch phone in the same way.
As for the BT calling feature - been there - done that on Android 5.1.
It can also be done on Android 7+ watches but the security implications are extremely challenging and some BIG companies (who will remain nameless) are at the point of almost outlawing the use of Bluetooth for comms functions.
For these companies that use the MTK SOC it is even more difficult as these BT stacks have been stripped down for a reason - they are also used by the Chinese military and parts of the source code are completely “off-limits”
At the end of the day the BT calling function is ok but not really an urgent requirement and yes, it requires funding to do it.
The end game here is to finally produce a watch that allows you to leave your phone at home.
The LEMX is an example of this becoming close to reality - and again at an extremely low price for what it can do.
So - whilst we appreciate your sentiments - your comments don’t apply here.
Thanks anyway but we will keep this thread on the topic of the thread title.
I will move these comments to a different home.
My two cents:
I love full android, while I hate, to get cut off on functinality on the watches.
BUT all watches I had tested (cheap LEM 5, expensive Ferace 3 with Qualcomm), I have to say the quality of the chinese brands have a big problem and NO, it is not the price, that is here important.
I mean i bought a new LG Urbane 2 (250 Dollar more than a year ago, imported by myself) and the Xiaomi Stratos 2 (150 Dollar, local shop in TH), also a very cheap Xiaomi BIP for my wife (and I think i get one too, they are amazing / 50 Dollars only and it stays abuot 30 days on battery, with GPS and continouus heart rate monitoring)
I mean, it seems the chinese MTK based watches are a big joke, where they really spend no time on development nor QC.
I mean, I manage a factory here in Thailand (other industry) and we produce quite cheap too, but this doesn’t mean you can abandon QC etc.
Also the prices with more than a 100 Dollar for a Lemfo or Finow are a joke. You get better material for less money.
Xiaomi is also Chinese, but they build solid (I use a wide range of their products Mi Mix 2s / Stratos / FitBand 3, BIP)
Also, even I get a little bit cut off with Wear on the LG Urbane 2, with a few tweaks, you get almost all apps running, that also run nromally under full Android (Facebook, Line messenger, i have it all and it runs SMOOTHLY)
The urbane 2 got a few month after I had bought it even cheaper and was on Sale NEW for 150$.
I was long time not online here and also my interest in the full watches is getting lower.
All I wanted from these watches, I found now in other ways.
And this is the sad thing about it. People turn away from full Android watches, because of all the reasons mentioned above.
I welcome newer brands, that will bring good chipsets, overall solid hardware and solid software. Also I’m really willing to pay more for such things, but my exeprience is, that you not even have to pay that more.
Even cheaper things are better than this MTK bunch.
Full Android Watch
Transfelctive Screen (yes no colorful AMOLED)
Days of battery (min. 4)
harmonized software (yes, it should all work in harmony together ad make good use of the hardware, also things like GPS etc. should be usable for hours not just minutes)