Updated . New link now working 
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Runtastic i have tested also . Trust me MRA is the best on A7.1.1 and the FAW firmware . It is the only fitness app that uses the in-built HRM .
What is it in particular that you are asking?
Power consumption ?
If you use the International FW with power saving enabled (as the second launcher does in “light mode” you will be able to use the watch for a very long time indeed. Longer than stock.
Even in regular mode - International v1.2 is better than regular mode and almost as good as light mode.
But why are you asking ?
You can test it yourself.
It is not like you need to flash anything after all.
It is an update zip file that is used be the built in OTA app on the stock firmware.
The only difference is you change the OTA app settings to “local storage update” and select the zip file that you have uploaded to the watch storage.
Use v1.0 if you are running stock Opt 2 FW or v1.2 if you have already updated to v1.0
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i have no problem with power consumption on my watch a present, i’m simply seeking as much info as possible before i make the decision on whether to upgrade, it’s great we can upgrade without flashing, my assumption is we can’t revert without flashing
i’m not a keen flasher
MRA, ???
(apologies for all those ?'s, had to get my character length up !)
Sorry . My running app My Running app - support thread
The link is working now.
Rather than re-posting the apk over and over - just click on the link to the thread and you can download it now.
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finished installation of version 1
.2 on optimus 2, everything works fine. The gps now seems more accurate but I will tell you after doing some tests. The only app missing from the original firmware is that of blood oxygen measurement. Will it be added?
looks good from the point of view of compatibility with smartwatches, but no mention of VO2max, the holy grail of fitness/health wearable metrics
(currently at any rate)
This is something I agree on @Ted
I would not purchase a Full Android Watch for such activities.
If I wanted reliable fitness, blood oxygen/pressure monitoring or sleep statistics - I would by a device that does this reliably.
By reliably - I mean that it uses sensors types that collect the data required and it is accurate - because this is what it was designed for.
But I would end up paying a LOT of money for an accurate device such as this.
When I look for quality in a Full Android Watch - I look for the following:
a) build quality and reliability
b) good screen quality/visibility
c) excellent battery life
d) watch face compatibility
e) google integration - properly done so I can use voice control
f) good phone call ability
g) good GPS integration for maps
h) Value for money.
At the end of the day I like to keep my expectations real.
For a $200 watch - I think that the Optimus 2, Prime 2, Lokmat APPALP 4 and LEM15 pretty much cover these requirements, including heart rate monitoring (which I never use, lol) - when combined with firmware that is more suitable for international customers.
It’s a matter of perspective and expectations from a watch in this price bracket.
Of course - we could get far more from these devices if we were willing to pay more money.
The way things work is that the brand has to lay out their money up front for a minimum order of 2000 pieces. Regardless if it is a flop or not - they have to take a very large risk every time they do it.
Remember the Genesis ? This is a prime example of the poor guy laying out ALL his own savings - hoping it would be successful. Sadly the quality control from the factory he chose let him down and I think it will be a long time before he gets over that experience.
It’s a cutthroat business and at the moment the brands don’t think that any watch priced over $250 would sell.
Sadly they are right and we need to be willing to pay a little more if we want more functionality.
Until they get confidence that there is a willingness to pay that little extra for a better (more functions and development) watch - they cannot risk it.
To produce 2000 Optimus 2 watches for example - means an up front payment of $330,000 (cost price)
If it were to fail - they would lose this money.
I think we all need to remember this.
Sermon over for today 
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Yes you are correct - going back to stock requires flashing.
Jeez - how long have you been using these devices and you are still worried about flashing an almost unbrick able device?
Come on @Ted - it’s a very simple task and the benefit is HUGE…
i’m a cautious bloke, i’ve made quite a nice living out of being cautious i’ll have you know !
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daredevils by comparison, i was an accountant !
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Even more explosive! 
I have a question on enabling/disabling gps. On android 7.1.1 there is an gps icon on the same screen that is used for enabling wifi, airplane mode, bluetooth, etc. That icon is missing on android 10.7. In the fitness app, you can enable location. I assume gps is automatically enabled in the map app and other apps. So if gps enabled by the app and the app is closed, does that stop gps from running in the background and draining the battery. Or is there a general control to enable gps or verify if it is running. It seemed to be a lot easier in 7.1.1.
If you go into apps in settings you will see what apps do and dont have permission to use gps . As for apps running in the background this is possible so they dont sleep . Look at the firsf posts of the offiicial prime S thread and i have explained how to do tbis .
try settings/location/on for independently controlling it
can’t speak for the fitness apps, all frozen on my device, but using google maps, it appears if you accept their prompt to turn location on it doesn’t automatically close when you exit the maps app
i’m on the stock firmware, can’t speak for the FAW stuff
How to freeze stock fitness apps?
i do it with the android debug bridge ADB, if your comfortable using flashing tools you’ll find ADB a breeze, very powerful and it does open up a whole new world of being able to fiddle with your device !
here’s a decent guide to getting started: https://www.xda-developers.com/disable-system-app-bloatware-android/
once your up and running, ‘list’ the packages on your device, use a search term like ‘wiite’ to narrow them down, you should see the fitness apps no problem, if your unsure i’ll post a list of the ones i’ve frozen so you can replicate in safety, let me know
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